Comments on: Unity across the Taiwan strait http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/ The China History Group Blog Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:40:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Frog in a Well - The China History Group Blog http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/comment-page-1/#comment-98127 Frog in a Well - The China History Group Blog Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:28:15 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/#comment-98127 [...] learned any number of things about Tibet recently I thought I would learn some more, and thankfully the new Modern China (34.2) arrived with an [...] [...] learned any number of things about Tibet recently I thought I would learn some more, and thankfully the new Modern China (34.2) arrived with an [...]

]]> By: Alexus McLeod http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/comment-page-1/#comment-98020 Alexus McLeod Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:01:00 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/#comment-98020 I saw this video on YouTube last week and had a good laugh. I particularly enjoyed the "map evidence" for showing that Tibet has always been a part of China. Apparently the author is unaware of the propagandistic role mapmaking can easily play (and historically has played). Peter Perdue's excellent book "China Marches West" on the Qing conquest of the western and northern frontier territories analyzes the propagandistic role mapmaking played in the Qing. Qing maps commonly included land that was in no real sense under Imperial control. Indeed, such techniques were often part of campaigns to legitimize incursions into desired or hostile territory. I saw this video on YouTube last week and had a good laugh. I particularly enjoyed the “map evidence” for showing that Tibet has always been a part of China. Apparently the author is unaware of the propagandistic role mapmaking can easily play (and historically has played). Peter Perdue’s excellent book “China Marches West” on the Qing conquest of the western and northern frontier territories analyzes the propagandistic role mapmaking played in the Qing. Qing maps commonly included land that was in no real sense under Imperial control. Indeed, such techniques were often part of campaigns to legitimize incursions into desired or hostile territory.

]]> By: Pete http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/comment-page-1/#comment-97972 Pete Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:02:11 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/#comment-97972 Yuan is actually now Mongolia. Proving Tibet belong to Yuan is giving it to Mongolia. Great move. Qing became Manchu Goa during WWII, a poppet regime of Japan. Tibet belonging to Qing is giving it to Japan. Say "Thank You", Japan. ROC had never exercise jurisdiction nor administration of Tibet. So there was a great continuity of "Chinese" rule on Tibet. While Chinese rules Tibet the last time, during late Ming, Spain and Netherlands ruled Taiwan. If this period of history can be used as a guide to who owns who, Taiwan should be independent, as a former colony. Yuan is actually now Mongolia. Proving Tibet belong to Yuan is giving it to Mongolia. Great move.

Qing became Manchu Goa during WWII, a poppet regime of Japan. Tibet belonging to Qing is giving it to Japan. Say “Thank You”, Japan.

ROC had never exercise jurisdiction nor administration of Tibet. So there was a great continuity of “Chinese” rule on Tibet. While Chinese rules Tibet the last time, during late Ming, Spain and Netherlands ruled Taiwan. If this period of history can be used as a guide to who owns who, Taiwan should be independent, as a former colony.

]]> By: J B http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/comment-page-1/#comment-97825 J B Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:50:17 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/china/2008/03/unity-across-the-taiwan-strait/#comment-97825 God save Taiwan if that's what constitutes Chinese people "reaching out". God save Taiwan if that’s what constitutes Chinese people “reaching out”.

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