Comments on: World War Wannabee: Russo-Japanese War? http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/ The Japan History Group Blog Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:45:05 -0800 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Jonathan Dresner http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/comment-page-1/#comment-204243 Jonathan Dresner Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:41:44 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/?p=744#comment-204243 Yeah, we do need more work on the R-J war, no question. I just wish the introduction to it hadn't been so easy to knock down. Actually, my recollection is that borrowing money from international sources wasn't a terribly new feature of WWI (was it, actually, a feature of WWI? Other than US financing, that is?). International finance played a role in the US Civil War, the bakumatsu conflicts; that's all I can pull off the top of my head, but the problems of financing <i>any</i> extended war were considerable (for example, the cost of the Seven Years War which led to the US Revolution, the cost of supporting which produced the French Revolution) Yeah, we do need more work on the R-J war, no question. I just wish the introduction to it hadn’t been so easy to knock down.

Actually, my recollection is that borrowing money from international sources wasn’t a terribly new feature of WWI (was it, actually, a feature of WWI? Other than US financing, that is?). International finance played a role in the US Civil War, the bakumatsu conflicts; that’s all I can pull off the top of my head, but the problems of financing any extended war were considerable (for example, the cost of the Seven Years War which led to the US Revolution, the cost of supporting which produced the French Revolution)

]]> By: Carl Freire http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/comment-page-1/#comment-204240 Carl Freire Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:42:33 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/?p=744#comment-204240 I share your reaction in viewing these as characteristics of modern warfare rather than evidence of a world war, though point 7 probably merits further attention. I suppose the counter argument might be that all of these points about this conflict (or any of the other roughly contemporaneous candidates) being late imperial conflicts make them "world wars" by default, since the world system is more thoroughly developed and integrated by this time yadda yadda yadda. Hyperbole, I respond to my straw man. Anyway, thanks for pointing the book out--might be useful in its way. I share your reaction in viewing these as characteristics of modern warfare rather than evidence of a world war, though point 7 probably merits further attention. I suppose the counter argument might be that all of these points about this conflict (or any of the other roughly contemporaneous candidates) being late imperial conflicts make them “world wars” by default, since the world system is more thoroughly developed and integrated by this time yadda yadda yadda. Hyperbole, I respond to my straw man. Anyway, thanks for pointing the book out–might be useful in its way.

]]> By: Tornadoes28 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/comment-page-1/#comment-204080 Tornadoes28 Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:02:26 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/?p=744#comment-204080 I see now thanks. Interesting post. I see now thanks. Interesting post.

]]> By: Jonathan Dresner http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/comment-page-1/#comment-204038 Jonathan Dresner Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:24:49 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/?p=744#comment-204038 Actually, it's a comparison to WWI: a less concise version of that would read "Just like WWI in August 1914, when the RJ conflict started in 1904 it was...." Actually, it’s a comparison to WWI: a less concise version of that would read “Just like WWI in August 1914, when the RJ conflict started in 1904 it was….”

]]> By: Tornadoes28 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2009/09/world-war-wannabee-russo-japanese-war/comment-page-1/#comment-204036 Tornadoes28 Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:04:55 +0000 http://www.froginawell.net/japan/?p=744#comment-204036 Unless I'm missing something, the Russo-Japanese War started in 1904, not 1914 as stated in point #2 above. Maybe just a typo. Unless I’m missing something, the Russo-Japanese War started in 1904, not 1914 as stated in point #2 above. Maybe just a typo.

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