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	<title>Comments on: Orthodoxy, or more revisionism? (History news round up II)</title>
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		<title>By: Frog in a Well - The Japan History Group Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/01/orthodoxy-or-more-revisionism-history-news-roundup-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-10861</link>
		<dc:creator>Frog in a Well - The Japan History Group Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 07:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Owen Miller, at the Korea blog, asks some hard questions (he&#8217;s good at that), and catching some really bad rhetoric [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Owen Miller, at the Korea blog, asks some hard questions (he&#8217;s good at that), and catching some really bad rhetoric [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
		<link>http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/01/orthodoxy-or-more-revisionism-history-news-roundup-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-9735</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Fixed the link.

Indeed, I doubt whether many NLs have spent too much time reading Marx. Who needs Marx  anyway? He&#039;s so passe, particularly when you have Kim Jong-il to light the way. Having said that, not all NL apostates have strayed into the rightwing twilight zone, some have actually become very good Marxists and socialists (in my opinion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. Fixed the link.</p>
<p>Indeed, I doubt whether many NLs have spent too much time reading Marx. Who needs Marx  anyway? He&#8217;s so passe, particularly when you have Kim Jong-il to light the way. Having said that, not all NL apostates have strayed into the rightwing twilight zone, some have actually become very good Marxists and socialists (in my opinion).</p>
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		<title>By: trachys</title>
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		<dc:creator>trachys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oi, that link to the Hanky leads to a Gmail account. I&#039;ve given up trying to guess the password, but the article is &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/184453.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

This guy Choi Hong-jae (did he even read Marx?) might enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://leninology.blogspot.com/2007/01/conscience-of-ex-liberal-leftist.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;today&#039;s post&lt;/a&gt; over at Lenin&#039;s Tomb, if he sees &quot;juche&quot; when he reads &quot;Stalinism&quot; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oi, that link to the Hanky leads to a Gmail account. I&#8217;ve given up trying to guess the password, but the article is <a href="http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/184453.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>This guy Choi Hong-jae (did he even read Marx?) might enjoy <a href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/2007/01/conscience-of-ex-liberal-leftist.html" rel="nofollow">today&#8217;s post</a> over at Lenin&#8217;s Tomb, if he sees &#8220;juche&#8221; when he reads &#8220;Stalinism&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d never associated the 뉴 라이트 with the Neocons before to be honest. I actually think they are quite different phenomena, although with some similarities now that I come to think about it. In both cases they seem to constitute attempts by a section of the right to delineate itself from the previous right. However, in the case of the US the Neocons defined themselves in contrast to the &#039;realist&#039; or religious conservatism of the past, while in South Korea the New Right has been defining itself as a &#039;rational conservatism&#039; against the &#039;old conservatives&#039; associated with corruption, dictatorship, and the military.

It is also interesting to note that quite a few of these Korean new rightists do actually fit the definition Andy gives above for a Neocon, although in many cases they come not from the progressive wing of Korean politics as such but straight from the pro-North jucheist camp. See for example this &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/184453.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent article in Hankyoreh&lt;/a&gt; on Choi Hong-jae, leader of the Liberty Union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d never associated the 뉴 라이트 with the Neocons before to be honest. I actually think they are quite different phenomena, although with some similarities now that I come to think about it. In both cases they seem to constitute attempts by a section of the right to delineate itself from the previous right. However, in the case of the US the Neocons defined themselves in contrast to the &#8216;realist&#8217; or religious conservatism of the past, while in South Korea the New Right has been defining itself as a &#8216;rational conservatism&#8217; against the &#8216;old conservatives&#8217; associated with corruption, dictatorship, and the military.</p>
<p>It is also interesting to note that quite a few of these Korean new rightists do actually fit the definition Andy gives above for a Neocon, although in many cases they come not from the progressive wing of Korean politics as such but straight from the pro-North jucheist camp. See for example this <a href="http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/184453.html" rel="nofollow">recent article in Hankyoreh</a> on Choi Hong-jae, leader of the Liberty Union.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The working definition of new right (or neocon) I use is a person who arrives at a conservative conclusion after working his or her way trough a progressive (American English: liberal) viewpoint.  

The most prominent &#039;neocon&#039; in Korea that comes to mind is Kim Moon-soo, the current Governor of Gyeoongi province.  Most of these &quot;new right&quot; guys don&#039;t seem to qualify.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The working definition of new right (or neocon) I use is a person who arrives at a conservative conclusion after working his or her way trough a progressive (American English: liberal) viewpoint.  </p>
<p>The most prominent &#8216;neocon&#8217; in Korea that comes to mind is Kim Moon-soo, the current Governor of Gyeoongi province.  Most of these &#8220;new right&#8221; guys don&#8217;t seem to qualify.</p>
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