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		<title>Tonghak and Taiping</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
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I was struck, preparing for class yesterday, that the Tonghak and Taiping faiths were surprisingly similar and arose nearly simultaneously: Syncretic monotheistic faiths drawing on Confucian, Christian and indigenous magical traditions, with anti-foreign reformist programs and a counter-cultural ethos of equality.1 There are obvious differences, too, in teachings and in the leadership, but the structural [...]]]></description>
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<p>I was struck, preparing for <a href="http://dresnerkorea.edublogs.org">class</a> yesterday, that the Tonghak and Taiping faiths were surprisingly similar and arose nearly simultaneously: Syncretic monotheistic faiths drawing on Confucian, Christian and indigenous magical traditions, with anti-foreign reformist programs and a counter-cultural ethos of equality.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2010/02/tonghak-and-taiping/#footnote_0_386" id="identifier_0_386" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" The Japanese &amp;#8220;New Religions&amp;#8221; of the 19th century are very heavily Shinto-influenced, with some Buddhism and almost no Christianity, nor did any of them become political movements. It&amp;#8217;s not the same. ">1</a></sup> There are obvious differences, too, in teachings and in the leadership, but the structural similarities raise some interesting possibilities for research and teaching.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m <a href="http://www.cambriapress.com/viewprintdatasheet.cfm?bookid=61">not the first person</a> to <a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;id=XMJpnYmKNQsC&#038;oi=fnd&#038;pg=PA3&#038;dq=tonghak+taiping+connection&#038;ots=MMcCggyAds&#038;sig=DXIEDVyJpMRNFjiJGGIo_4a1Bdg#v=onepage&#038;q=taiping&#038;f=false">have this insight</a> apparently, though it doesn&#8217;t look (from what little I can tell from these links) like there&#8217;s any hint of direct connection between them. I&#8217;m a little surprised, frankly, that World History textbooks (which love those kinds of parallel moments) haven&#8217;t picked up on it. Of course, Korea&#8217;s place in World History textbooks overall is pretty pitiful at the moment and the Taiping movement rarely gets more than passing mention in an already busy and traumatic Chinese 19th century. With the rise of <a href="http://www.insidehighered.com/views/2010/02/18/schultz">religious history</a>, it seems likely that these issues might come closer to the forefront, though, and I&#8217;d be curious to know if anyone else out there does something with this confluence.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_386" class="footnote"> The Japanese &#8220;New Religions&#8221; of the 19th century are very heavily Shinto-influenced, with some Buddhism and almost no Christianity, nor did any of them become political movements. It&#8217;s not the same. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>The Sideshow in Korea?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
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Yet the costly Iraq war must also be recognised as a sideshow in the Bush global counteroffensive against Islamist militancy, just as the far more costly Korean war was a sideshow to global cold war containment. So says Edward Luttwak, in an extensive attempt to speed up the process by which History justifies and valorizes [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p>Yet the costly Iraq war must also be recognised as a sideshow in the Bush global counteroffensive against Islamist militancy, just as the far more costly Korean war was a sideshow to global cold war containment.</p></blockquote>
<p>So says <a href="http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=10309">Edward Luttwak</a>, in an extensive attempt to speed up the process by which <big><em><strong>History</strong></em></big> justifies and valorizes the policies of this administration. [<a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/53303.html">via</a>] He&#8217;s mostly engaged in a bit of dramatic <i>post hoc, ergo propter hoc</i> whereby a shift in government policies towards extremist Islamic groups is the result of Pres. Bush&#8217;s Trumanesque firmness, but the damage done to the success &#8212; military and diplomatic &#8212; of the initial Afghanistan campaign <i>by</i> the Iraq campaign isn&#8217;t taken into account at all.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2008/08/the-sideshow-in-korea/#footnote_0_285" id="identifier_0_285" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" He&amp;#8217;s also assuming that al Qaeda&amp;#8217;s &amp;#8220;call to action&amp;#8221; attacks were likely to inspire imitators rather than revulsion in the short run, which seems like he&amp;#8217;s taking their own rhetoric way too seriously. Romantic nihilists have been claiming that &amp;#8220;the masses are on the brink of revolution&amp;#8221; and &amp;#8220;dramatic action will awaken them&amp;#8221; for over two centuries now. ">1</a></sup> The Korean war &#8212; which I have a lot of trouble seeing as a &#8220;sideshow,&#8221; given the direct involvement of Chinese and Russian forces and a lot more actual shooting than in Europe &#8212; <i>advanced</i> the cause of anti-communism. It was a success, in the sense that it preserved South Korea as a non-communist state and it was the last full-scale conflict between the great powers for some time. The only sense in which Korea could be called a &#8220;sideshow&#8221; is that Truman&#8217;s containment policy engaged a lot of other parts of the world as well.</p>
<p>He then goes on to mangle Chinese history &#8212; Tang, Song and Ming dynasties never conquered anyone, right? &#8212; and to cast the future of Asia in binaries (China: convergence or communist collapse? India: corruption stagnation or &#8220;traditional&#8221; good Brahmin governance?), as well as giving the administration credit for North Korean disarmament instead of noting their years of footdragging on same which have exacerbated the proliferation problem. </p>
<p>Truman deserves better.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_285" class="footnote"> He&#8217;s also assuming that al Qaeda&#8217;s &#8220;call to action&#8221; attacks were <i>likely</i> to inspire imitators rather than revulsion in the short run, which seems like he&#8217;s taking their own rhetoric <i>way</i> too seriously. Romantic nihilists have been claiming that &#8220;the masses are on the brink of revolution&#8221; and &#8220;dramatic action will awaken them&#8221; for over two centuries now. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Korea: Better than Vietnam, anyway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
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Thomas C. Reeves, perhaps my least favorite HNN blogger, is arguing that the success of South Korea justifies our Middle East policies, especially Iraq. The comparison of Bush to Truman is nothing new, nor is the analogy of Iraq and Korea. But this particular one is quite egregious, and I can&#8217;t let it pass without [...]]]></description>
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<p>Thomas C. Reeves, perhaps my least favorite HNN blogger, is arguing that <a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/46361.html">the success of South Korea justifies our Middle East policies, especially Iraq</a>. The comparison of Bush to Truman is nothing new, nor is the <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/05/analogy-alert-iraqkorea/">analogy of Iraq and Korea</a>. But this particular one is quite egregious, and I can&#8217;t let it pass without comment. Reeves&#8217; main point &#8212; that South Korea is better off than North Korea and that the US had a hand in that &#8212; is true, but in such a shallow manner as to be empty rhetoric. His larger theme &#8212; that the support for freedom and opposition to tyranny are worthwhile even when unpopular &#8212; is also true, but the use of the Korea and Truman raise serious questions.</p>
<p>First, of course, is the sheer hubris of attributing the difference solely to &#8220;American influence and protection.&#8221; The Korean War was initiated by North Korea in direct action against US/UN troops, not by a US invasion. The US was already in Korea, for good reason, but ham-handedly refusing &#8212; as was the Soviet Union &#8212; to allow Koreans to determine their own post-colonial path. US involvement in South Korean politics over the quarter-century after the Korean War <i>delayed</i> progress towards democracy, did nothing in particular to promote religious tolerance (unless you count supporting Christian missionaries, which seems a bit self-serving), and I&#8217;ve never seen anyone argue that US involvement was particularly good for the Korean economy, either. </p>
<p>The attempt to tar opponents of Bush Administration policy as new McCarthyites &#8212; well-intentioned, perhaps, but short-sighted, partisan and hypocritical &#8212; ignores literally <i>years</i> of critics saying &#8220;it would be good for everyone if we could proceed in a responsible and effective manner.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2008/01/korea-better-than-vietnam-anyway/#footnote_0_230" id="identifier_0_230" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" e. g. ">1</a></sup> Instead, Reeves pulls out the middle ground, leaving only support for the Administration (who are, according to Reeves, more Trumanesque than Johnsonesque or Kennedyesque or Rooseveltian or Wilsonian&#8230;.) or &#8220;appeasement and retreat for mere political gain.&#8221; It&#8217;s a short step from this kind of manicheanism to &#8220;stabbed in the back&#8221; revisionism.</p>
<p>Ultimately, this is a classic case of the political rhetorical use of historical analogies: pick the one which has the most obvious parallel for the result you want to see, and ignore differences.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2008/01/korea-better-than-vietnam-anyway/#footnote_1_230" id="identifier_1_230" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Reeves waves it away with &amp;#8220;Yes, of course, there are many differences between Iraq and the Middle East today and the Korean peninsula of more than a half century ago.&amp;#8221; My students wouldn&amp;#8217;t be allowed to get away with that! ">2</a></sup> It&#8217;s irresponsible for a historian to trade in these facile arguments.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_230" class="footnote"> <a href="http://hnn.us/articles/1726.html">e. g.</a> </li><li id="footnote_1_230" class="footnote"> Reeves waves it away with &#8220;Yes, of course, there are many differences between Iraq and the Middle East today and the Korean peninsula of more than a half century ago.&#8221; My students wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to get away with that! </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Asian History Carnival #15</title>
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Welcome to the Fifteenth edition of the Asian History Carnival! The picture is of the beautiful pavilion at the Center for Korean Studies at UH-Manoa, where ASPAC just met and I was elevated to the illustrious ranks of Secretary pro tem and Secretary-elect in a heady rush.1 I didn&#8217;t have the time to blog during [...]]]></description>
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Welcome to the Fifteenth edition of the <a href="http://froginawell.net/japan/carnival">Asian History Carnival</a>! The picture is of the beautiful pavilion at the Center for Korean Studies at UH-Manoa, where <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/japan/2007/06/vagaries-of-honolulu/">ASPAC just met</a> and I was elevated to the illustrious ranks of Secretary <i>pro tem</i> <b>and</b> Secretary-elect in a heady rush.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_0_155" id="identifier_0_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" something about my neurotic tendency to write everything down seems to have swayed the electorate ">1</a></sup> I didn&#8217;t have the time to blog during the conference, so I&#8217;m doing my conference blogging afterwards, staring with <a href="http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/univercity/south_asian_studies_at_aspac.html">South Asian issues</a> (textbook controversies, identity, and a new <a href="http://sasia.org">South Asian Studies Conference</a>).<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_1_155" id="identifier_1_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" I still have Korean and Japanese panels to comment on next week. Somehow I managed to entirely miss any Chinese panels. ">2</a></sup> I&#8217;ve also been helping <a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/2.html">Ralph Luker</a> with a little <a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/9665.html#regional">Blogroll Revision</a>, so the non-US history blogs are much more accessible. Finally, there&#8217;s a new way to keep track of the History Carnival community: the <a href="http://historycarnival.blogspot.com">History Carnival Aggregator</a>, your one-stop shop for announcements! Well, enough about me, let&#8217;s see what the rest of the blogosphere&#8217;s been up to this last month!</p>
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<p><b>Asian Wars</b></p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a great month for historical analogies to recent wars in Asia, naturally. The big headline was the <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/05/analogy-alert-iraqkorea/">&#8220;Korea Model&#8221;</a> for post-war occupation and security, which prompted a <i>lot</i> of people to start remembering the &#8220;forgotten war.&#8221; Then there&#8217;s the &#8220;never-forgotten war&#8221;: Vietnam. I&#8217;ll just highlight one post which came across my desk: <a href="http://www.progressivehistorians.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1571">James Livingston</a> on how Vietnam analogies are not good for supporters of the &#8220;surge.&#8221;<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_2_155" id="identifier_2_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" I&amp;#8217;m sure there are a few hundred others I didn&amp;#8217;t see&amp;#8230;. ">3</a></sup></p>
<p>Clint Eastwood&#8217;s movies about the Battle of Iwo Jima are still getting a lot of reaction. The Japanese government is going to <a href="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/6/20/121135.shtml">change the name on maps back to Iwa-to</a>, which is what it was before US mapmakers mucked it up and the battle stuck it in our heads. <a href="http://madmanofchu.blogspot.com/2007/06/no-suribachis-here.html">Andrew Meyer does a comparative review</a> of Eastwood&#8217;s Iwo Jima films, with a highly presentist reading of Japan, Iraq and the films themselves. Speaking of WWII, Brett Holman <a href="http://airminded.org/2007/05/22/canton-and-munich/">discusses early air attacks on urban populations</a> as reported in the British press, including Canton.</p>
<p>Going back a bit further, <a href="http://grad.norwich.edu/mmh/directorscorner/index.html">Kenneth Swope went to an Imjin War</a> (that&#8217;s the Hideyoshi invasions, for my Japanese studies friends) conference in Korea recently, and focused particularly on Admiral Yi Sunshin [<a href="http://kalapanapundit.blogspot.com/2007/05/on-trail-of-admiral-yi-sunsin.html">via</a>].<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_3_155" id="identifier_3_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Why don&amp;#8217;t more scholars do the kind of conference reporting that Swope and I do? I don&amp;#8217;t mean the &amp;#8220;I went to K. and met up with blogger XYZ and we hit the buffet&amp;#8221; stuff, but real discussions of the scholarship and issues. Are there not enough bloggers yet? Is there some ethical issue I&amp;#8217;ve overlooked? Or am I the only one hurting for material this much? ">4</a></sup> </p>
<p><b>Memorials and Museums</b></p>
<p>Anniversary posts seem to have been popular this month: apparently May and June are historically rich months for Korea. Our own Owen Miller has been <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/the-june-struggle-in-the-british-newspapers/">blogging</a> <a href="http://kotaji.blogsome.com/category/june87/">press reactions to the upheavals in Korea 20 years ago</a>.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_4_155" id="identifier_4_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" It&amp;#8217;s not &amp;#8220;liveblogging&amp;#8221; because it happened a long time ago. &amp;#8220;Synchblogging&amp;#8221;? &amp;#8220;Lagblogging&amp;#8221;? &amp;#8220;Historioblogical recreation?&amp;#8221; We need a new word again. ">5</a></sup> Matt at <i>Gusts of Popular Feeling</i> has been on a solid run of anniverary notices, including <a href="http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2007/05/meandering-musings-on-kwangju-uprising.html">his own thoughts</a> and a <a href="http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2007/05/518.html">news roundup</a> on the anniversary of the Kwangju uprising and massacre, as well as a remembrance of <a href="http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2007/05/country-boy-running-korea.html">Park Chung-hee&#8217;s 1961 coup</a>. Matt&#8217;s also got a fantastic collection of <a href="http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2007/06/post-liberation-photos-of-seoul-and.html">Post-liberation photographs</a>, very rare images.</p>
<p>Konrad Lawson <a href="http://muninn.net/blog/2007/06/the-hall-of-asian-peoples.html">visited NY Museum of Natural History&#8217;s &#8220;Hall of Asian Peoples&#8221;</a> and was not impressed. Alan Baumler&#8217;s been tracking <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/china/2007/05/a-rose-by-any-other-name/">changing names of memorials in Taipei</a> and changing <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/china/2007/06/president-chiang-kai-shek/">views of Chiang and Sun on the mainland</a>. Eric Muller <a href="http://www.isthatlegal.org/archives/2007/06/heart_mountain_2.html">unveils new commemorative plaques at a Japanese American internment camp site</a>.</p>
<p>Penny Richards marked the <a href="http://disstud.blogspot.com/2007/05/may-11-chang-and-eng-bunker-1811-1874.html">birthday of the original &#8220;Siamese Twins&#8221;</a> (ethnic Chinese born in Siam) who &#8212; I sure didn&#8217;t know this &#8212; married and settled down on a plantation with slaves in North Carolina. While we&#8217;re doing biography, I&#8217;ll note Prof. Kitsuno&#8217;s <a href="http://shogun-yashiki.blogspot.com/2007/05/death-of-takeda-shingen.html">two part</a> <a href="http://shogun-yashiki.blogspot.com/2007/05/death-of-takeda-shingen-part-2.html">Death of Takeda Shingen</a> post.</p>
<p><b>Debates and Disputes</b></p>
<p>Apparently the <a href="http://granitestudio.blogspot.com/2007/06/korea-china-history-wars-part.html">Korea-China History Wars</a> have claimed a new victim: <a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/and-then-they-came-for-taekwondo/">Taekwondo</a>, the Korean martial art.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_5_155" id="identifier_5_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" Apparently the Chinese are taking the multinational patent approach to culture: if it&amp;#8217;s derived from something Chinese, then we own the rights to it, no matter how much work you did on it ">6</a></sup></p>
<p>Joel Martinson reports on <a href="http://www.danwei.org/scholarship_and_education/controversy_over_a_history_tex.php">a textbook controversy</a>, this one a college history text in China, which is taking internal brickbats. Speaking of internecine warfare, Aidan reports on a <a href="http://uselesstree.typepad.com/useless_tree/2007/05/french_sinologi.html">French Sinological debate</a> and comes to what seems to me the obvious conclusion: they&#8217;re both wrong, but not because they&#8217;re French.</p>
<p><b>Ideas and Influences</b></p>
<p>The key theme this month seems to be the tension between Nationalism and everything else. </p>
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<li> <a href="http://uselesstree.typepad.com/useless_tree/2007/06/confucianism_is.html">Confucianism isn&#8217;t nationalism</a>, by Aidan.</li>
<li><a href="http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2421">Buddhist Nationalism in early 20c Japan</a> by Brian Victoria</li>
<li><a href="http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/05/01/japan-times-foreign-office-organ/">Nationalistic journalism?</a> by the Mutantfrog</li>
<li><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/china/2007/06/drop-and-give-me-twenty/">Nationalist cadre training pitfalls in comic book form</a> by Alan Baumler</li>
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<p>Serious. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a great pleasure to also be able to present Joe&#8217;s discovery of <a href="http://www.mutantfrog.com/2007/05/30/why-horizontal-strokes-are-thinner-than-vertical-strokes/">how woodblock grains have influenced modern typefaces</a>.<sup><a href="http://www.froginawell.net/korea/2007/06/asian-history-carnival-15/#footnote_6_155" id="identifier_6_155" class="footnote-link footnote-identifier-link" title=" cites Wikipedia, though. I&amp;#8217;d like to hear from someone with real expertise, though I doubt they&amp;#8217;re blogging&amp;#8230;. ">7</a></sup> And 花崗齋之愚公&#8217;s <a href="http://granitestudio.blogspot.com/2007/05/sicilian-guide-to-chinese-history.html"><i>The Godfather</i> mnemonic for Chinese History</a>. </p>
<p><b>Academia</b></p>
<p>Kiki, a new teacher, reflects on an <a href="http://yogademia.blogspot.com/2007/06/learning-as-teacher.html">Chinese art history teaching experience</a>. On the other end of the spectrum, Christopher Bayly, Author of <i>Empire and Information: Intelligence gathering and social communication in India 1780-1870</i> (1996) was <a href="http://www.chapatimystery.com/archives/univercity/sir_christopher_bayly.html">knighted</a> and Japanese studies pioneer Fred Notehelfer <a href="http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=71021">got a symposium for his retirement</a>. </p>
<p>Academics are most noted for writing for themselves, but sometimes they work in the service of others. Jonathan Benda has <a href="http://jonintaiwan.blogspot.com/2007/06/your-assignment-should-you-choose-to.html">some questions about the ghostwriter for Syngman Rhee</a>. John Gillespie writes about the relationship between <a href="http://sensitivitytothings.com/2007/05/29/kokoro-no-tomo-bosom-friend/">Donald Keene and Mishima Yukio</a></p>
<p>Finally, a real blast from the past: 花崗齋之愚公 <a href="http://granitestudio.blogspot.com/2007/06/gaokao-exams-and-social-mobility-in.html">on the Chinese Imperial Exams</a> and how today&#8217;s university exams just don&#8217;t stack up.</p>
<p><b>Resources</b></p>
<p>The AHC has been covering digital resources for some time. This time, it seems like they&#8217;re all art history</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/39038.html">Manan Ahmed notes</a> <a href="http://www.philamuseum.org/exhibitions/108.html">Ike Taiga and Tokuyama Gyokuran: Japanese Masters of the Brush</a>, May 1, 2007 &#8211; July 22, 2007</li>
<li><a href="http://display.artificialia.org/?p=59">Morgan Pitelka notes</a> an online exhibition of <a href="http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/exhibitions/online/edo/">Hiroshige&#8217;s &#8220;100 views of Edo&#8221;</a></li>
<li><a href="http://granitestudio.blogspot.com/2007/05/bloomberg-chinas-1600-year-old-dunhuang.html">花崗齋之愚公</a> notes a Dunhuang digitization project</li>
</ul>
<p>Two other items: From Michael Rank, <a href="http://www.nkzone.org/nkzone/entry/2007/05/13/documentary_abo.php">&#8220;a fascinating one-hour documentary about the 200,000 ethnic Koreans who were deported to Kazakhstan by Stalin in 1937&#8243;</a> and from Noel at The Southeast Asian Archaeology Newsblog, <a href="http://www.southeastasianarchaeology.com/2007/06/07/srivijaya-a-primer-part-1/">Srivijaya: A primer &#8211; Part 1</a></p>
<p><b>In Lieu of a Conclusion</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s it for this edition. I&#8217;m looking for volunteers for the next few months. The Asian history blogging community keeps getting bigger: come out and play!</p>
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<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_155" class="footnote"> something about my neurotic tendency to write everything down seems to have swayed the electorate </li><li id="footnote_1_155" class="footnote"> I still have <a href="http://froginawell.net/korea">Korean</a> and <a href="http://froginawell.net/japan">Japanese</a> panels to comment on next week. Somehow I managed to entirely miss any <a href="http://froginawell.net/china">Chinese</a> panels. </li><li id="footnote_2_155" class="footnote"> I&#8217;m sure there are a few hundred others I didn&#8217;t see&#8230;. </li><li id="footnote_3_155" class="footnote"> Why don&#8217;t more scholars do the kind of conference reporting that Swope and I do? I don&#8217;t mean the &#8220;I went to K. and met up with blogger XYZ and we hit the buffet&#8221; stuff, but real discussions of the scholarship and issues. Are there not enough bloggers yet? Is there some ethical issue I&#8217;ve overlooked? Or am I the only one hurting for material this much? </li><li id="footnote_4_155" class="footnote"> It&#8217;s not &#8220;liveblogging&#8221; because it happened a long time ago. &#8220;Synchblogging&#8221;? &#8220;Lagblogging&#8221;? &#8220;Historioblogical recreation?&#8221; We need a new word again. </li><li id="footnote_5_155" class="footnote"> Apparently the Chinese are taking the multinational patent approach to culture: if it&#8217;s derived from something Chinese, then we own the rights to it, no matter how much work you did on it </li><li id="footnote_6_155" class="footnote"> cites Wikipedia, though. I&#8217;d like to hear from someone with real expertise, though I doubt they&#8217;re blogging&#8230;. </li></ol>]]></content:encoded>
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this via: White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush would like to see a U.S. role in Iraq ultimately similar to that in South Korea. &#8220;The Korean model is one in which the United States provides a security presence, but you&#8217;ve had the development of a successful democracy in South Korea over a period of [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N30416213.htm">this</a> <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/014375.php">via</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush would like to see a U.S. role in Iraq ultimately similar to that in South Korea.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Korean model is one in which the United States provides a security presence, but you&#8217;ve had the development of a successful democracy in South Korea over a period of years, and, therefore, the United States is there as a force of stability,&#8221; Snow told reporters.</p></blockquote>
<p>and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/26/washington/26strategy.html">this</a> <a href="http://sideshow.me.uk/smay07.htm#05261646">via</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Missing from much of the current discussion is talk about the success of democracy in Iraq, officials say, or even of the passage of reconciliation measures that Mr. Bush said in January that the troop increase would allow to take place. In interviews, many senior administration and military officials said they now doubted that those political gains, even if achieved, would significantly reduce the violence.</p>
<p>The officials cautioned that no firm plans have emerged from the discussions. But they said the proposals being developed envision a far smaller but long-term American presence, centering on three or four large bases around Iraq. Mr. Bush has told recent visitors to the White House that he was seeking a model similar to the American presence in South Korea.</p></blockquote>
<p>Discuss.</p>
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